Correcting Two of Mandy Connell’s False Statements

Mandy Connnell made many false statements during my interview, and I was able to correct most of them. For example, when she claimed the Constitution was based upon the 10 Commandments, I noted that the 10 Commandments required worship of Yahweh and no other god and that violations were punishable by death from stoning. She quickly dropped that subject, as she often did when it was shown she was wrong.

However, she made two false statements that I did not have references on hand to refute. She claimed that the ACLU has only defended Christians once. That statement is not true, as you can read about 44 such cases here: http://www.aclufightsforchristians.com/.

Mandy also claimed that the Federalist Papers were based on Christian values. This is also false. These papers were written by James Madison, John Jay, and Alexander Hamilton to gain support for the Constitution, so they are considered good documentation of what the founding fathers really meant. These 85 papers (189,954 words) can be viewed and searched online at http://www2.hn.psu.edu/faculty/jmanis/poldocs/fed-papers.pdf. Here is an analysis, which you can verify by searching in the previous link for yourself.

1) Federalist Papers do not include the word Jesus, Christ, bible or scripture.

2) The word CHRISTIANITY is mentioned once in regard to an era of time (“In the early ages of Christianity”) in #19

3) There are 5 uses of LORD, but none are in reference to God. These are often counted as references to God by Christian Nation proponents.
a) oppressions of their immediate lords. #17
b) the House of Lords to decide upon it. #65
c) and rejected in the House of Lords. #71
d) resides in the House of Lords #81
e) Declaration of Right presented by the Lords and Commons #84

4) There are 7 uses of RELIGION, none promoting any religion as a basis for government.
a) For in politics, as in religion, it is equally absurd to aim at making proselytes by fire and sword. #1
b) a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion #2
c) An entire and perfect union will be the solid foundation of lasting peace: It will secure your religion, liberty, and property #3
d) The latent causes of faction are thus sown in the nature of man… A zeal for different opinions concerning religion, concerning government, and many other points, #11
e) The Amphictyons [ancient Greece] were the guardians of religion,#18
f) The controversies on the subject of religion, which in three instances have kindled violent and bloody contests, may be said, in fact, to have severed the league #19
g) The infinite divisibility of matter… is a point agreed among geometricians, though not less incomprehensible to common-sense than any of those mysteries in religion, against which the batteries of infidelity have been so industriously leveled. #32

5) God or demi-god appear 2 times in reference to pagan gods, and once to Deistic Nature’s God
a) the monster-taming spirit which is attributed to the fabulous heroes and demigods of antiquity #16
b) The Thebans, with others of the cities, undertook to maintain the authority of the Amphictyons, and to avenge the violated god. #18
c) the transcendent law of nature and of nature’s God, which declares that the safety and happiness of society are the objects at which all political institutions aim #43

6) PROVIDENCE, a term used by Deists, is used 3 times, all in #2
a) Providence has in a particular manner blessed it with a variety of soils and productions, and watered it #2
b) With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people #2
c) This country and this people seem to have been made for each other, and it appears as if it was the design of Providence #2

It should also be noted that there are many references to pagan gods, including Apollo.

“The Phocians having ploughed up some consecrated ground belonging to the temple of Apollo, the Amphictyonic council, according to the superstition of the age, imposed a fine on the sacrilegious offenders.” #19

The god Apollo appears more times in the Federalist Papers than the god Jesus or Yahweh!

No reasonable person could conclude that the Federalist Papers are based on Christian values. Out of 189,954 words, there are no occurrences of Jesus, Christ, Yahweh or bible.

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3 Responses to Correcting Two of Mandy Connell’s False Statements

  1. Mikel says:

    Nice followup, very informative. It’s amazing how fast the claims of “Christian Nation” wither under scrutiny.

  2. Marta M West says:

    Surprising how often we think we have knowledge about an issue just to find out later how little we really know thanks to a speaker like Ed Hensley who challenges us to check for ourselves actual facts as with the Nation historic documents, leaving us amazed of how manipulated and deceived we’ve been by the wide spread of false or twisted facts by religious apologetics. Very refreshing indeed to listen to a speaker like him who expresses his reasonable and logical points of view not based on emotions but on verifiable facts. Hope he is invited again so that we can learn much more!

  3. Bill says:

    Mandy is a smart lady and I tune in everyday, however I was very disappointed in her rude words in this interview, I wonder if she even knows how unintelligent she sounded.
    She has been “programed” to believe and refuses to have an open mind on the subject.

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